{"id":12077,"date":"2026-05-12T04:06:34","date_gmt":"2026-05-12T08:06:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/data-mania.com\/blog\/?p=12077"},"modified":"2026-05-12T04:06:34","modified_gmt":"2026-05-12T08:06:34","slug":"how-to-become-a-data-entrepreneur-mindspeaking-podcast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.data-mania.com\/blog\/how-to-become-a-data-entrepreneur-mindspeaking-podcast\/","title":{"rendered":"How to become a Data Entrepreneur, Validating Ideas, and Stakeholder Management with Lillian Pierson (MindSpeaking Podcast Ep. 9)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The 9th episode of the MindSpeaking Podcast hosted by Gilbert Eijkelenboom, <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">the Founder of MindSpeaking, <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">features Lillian Pierson, the CEO and Head of Product at Data-Mania. Known widely across the data community, she supports data professionals in transforming into world-class leaders and entrepreneurs. She has trained well over 1,7000,000 individuals on the topics of AI and data science.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/NcveBVz0i4E\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In this episode, you will learn important key points from Lillian &#8211; things she\u2019s been learning from her experience being a data entrepreneur. The following timestamps, as provided in the original video here \ud83d\udc49 <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/NcveBVz0i4E\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/NcveBVz0i4E<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, will help you access your most favorite part and the topic you are most interested in right away!\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>How to Become a Data Entrepreneur Interview highlights:<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">00:00 Introduction<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">00:24 Introduction of the guest<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">01:53 Who is Lillian Pierson?<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">03:31 Product management and growing data-intensive businesses<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">04:30 What makes you so passionate about products?<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">05:33 Being an entrepreneur or building their own business<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">07:48 What can you learn from product managers?<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">12:42 Stakeholder feedback<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">18:29 What made you move to Thailand and how did those career choices develop?<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">21:25 Dream about traveling the world, living abroad, and being an entrepreneur<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">25:02 How to slow down?<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">28:48 What have you learned about teaching online?<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">31:33 Moment of reflection<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">33:18 How do you think Data scientists need to be taught differently?<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">36:10 About Data-Mania<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">39:51 Where to follow Lillian Pierson?<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">40:53 Conclusion<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><b>About MindSpeaking Podcast<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The MindSpeaking Podcast, hosted by Gilbert Eijkelenboom, is about the Human Side of Data. Gilbert invites thought leaders to spread their insights about data, communication, and personal development.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>You can connect with him and get his free resources using the links below:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\ud83d\udc68\ud83c\udffb\u200d\ud83d\udcbb Gilbert\u2019s Linkedin: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/linkedin.com\/in\/eijkelenboom\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/linkedin.com\/in\/eijkelenboom<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\ud83d\udcd9 People Skills for Analytical Thinkers: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/mindspeaking.com\/buy-book\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/mindspeaking.com\/buy-book<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\ud83d\udcc8 Discover your maturity level: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/mindspeaking.com\/maturity-model\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/mindspeaking.com\/maturity-model<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\ud83d\udde3 Free email course for Analytical Thinkers: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/mindspeaking.com\/conversation\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/mindspeaking.com\/conversation<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><b>Watch \/ listen to the full episode using the links below:<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Apple: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/apple.co\/3EjhceS\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/apple.co\/3EjhceS<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Spotify: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/spoti.fi\/3EgERMG\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/spoti.fi\/3EgERMG<\/span><\/a><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">YouTube (with Timestamps): <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/NcveBVz0i4E\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/NcveBVz0i4E<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><b>If you want to know more or get in touch with Lillian, follow the links below:<\/b><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCK4MGP0A6lBjnQWAmcWBcKQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Free Training on YouTube: Lillian Pierson<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/data.leaders.and.entrepreneurs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Becoming World-Class Data Leaders and Data Entrepreneurs Facebook Group<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/linkedin.com\/in\/lillianpierson\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lillian Pierson on LinkedIn<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.data-mania.com\/data-entrepreneur-toolkit\/\">The Data Entrepreneur\u2019s Toolkit<\/a>: A recommendation set for 32 free (or low-cost) tools &amp; processes that\u2019ll actually grow your data business (even if you still haven\u2019t put up that website yet!).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr\/>\n<p><em>Building a B2B startup growth engine? See how <a href=\"https:\/\/www.data-mania.com\/fractional-cmo-services\/\"><strong>Lillian Pierson works as a fractional CMO<\/strong><\/a> for tech startups navigating GTM, AI, and scale.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The 9th episode of the MindSpeaking Podcast hosted by Gilbert Eijkelenboom, the Founder of MindSpeaking, features Lillian Pierson, the CEO and Head of Product at Data-Mania. Known widely across the data community, she supports data professionals in transforming into world-class leaders and entrepreneurs. 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